Can you tell us about this new european tour?
How is it?
So far its been great. Weve only been on tour for 5 or 6
days. Today is our first festival. But the club shows has been amazing.
They were sold out, people were really excited. We had to play long
sets because people kept asking for more songs. Last night we play 1
hour and a half because people are excited about the new album. And
they sing so much, so I feel bad about leaving the stage at the end
of the show.
it will make a big difference with tonight because youre gonna
play about 30 minutes !
I wont talk too much, Ill try to sing more. About your new
album, why a so long time between Our Darkest Days and A
Place Called Home?
After A Place Called Home came out, we did a big tour, like
2, 3 years straight. And then I went to sing for the Misfits for 5 or
6 month. Then we got more tour when I came back. For some reason we
were just touring and touring and touring. Because when you put out
an album you keep getting offers to tour. And it makes time to go home,
not work and focus on writing. It takes for me a little while to finish
the songs because you have to have life experiences in between. Some
of the worst albums are the second or third album for a band because
they just try to get an album out between tours. But for me music has
to be a part of something that happens to me. So I have to write about
my past, my life. I have to feel it.
Our Darkest Days after five waiting years, how was in general,
the response from the fans ?
Its been great because the album is not mainstream but a lot more
listenable to wider audience. Lot more singing in it. There is an acoustic
song in it, there is not just hardcore. So its been great because
we had a lot of people that are not from the hardcore or punk rock that
came to the clubs, because they just like the music. And thats
what I always try to do, make my music open to whoever wants to hear
it. I like that!
Darkest Days has a lot of great melodic voice, is it due to Cameron
Its due to Zoli Teglas. Cameron and I argued a lot. Were
good friends but in the studio, he will turn of everything and tell
me to go home, because I suck and Im a piece of shit. So we argued
all day long, 8 hours a day, and that is the album that came out of
it. I wanted it to be more melodic, he kept me singing harder and harder,
he made me sing high, so fuckin high! I gotta grab my balls to
hit the fuckin high notes. The reason why its melodic its
because of me, and the reason why its so powerfull its because
of him. Hes a very very good producer.
you think you are more closed to bands like H2O, like Boysetsfire or
like Bad Religion ?
Hopefuly like H2O and Bad Religion. Not Boysetsfire because I dont
agree with their politics but I like Bad Religion politics and guys
from H2O are great.
the lyrics, you speak of political strife and social revendication,
can you tell us about it ?
Well, my family payed the price to communism. Communism is a great idea,
so is Santa Clause and Easter Bunny. To my view, the best way to make
a country work is like in Sweden, capitalist taxes pay for socialised
medecin, socialised school and socialised health care. But to a capitalist
economy you have to have a middle class. I lost family members to fuckin
communism, the Stalline communism, and all that bullshit. I talk about
that in a song called Poverty for all. Another side is when
we came to America, everybody in my family joined the army, everybody
but not me. I have a half brother who is in Iraq right now. We felt
that we wanted to give back to our country because America has given
a lot to us. Living there, you can make a lot of money, nobody bothers
you and you can have the american dream, you really can. And we did
it. We came from nothing and now my family have buisiness, houses, we
worked our fuckin asses of. But my brother now is in Iraq, risking
his life for fuckin oil, for Dick Cheaney, for George Bush. Not
for Iraqee people, but for companies. Thats where the sad thing
is. My family had to pay the price for communism, and now is paying
the price for pure capitalism. Because the George Bush politie for capitalism
is so extreme, hes like the dictators of the old days. Which is
big buiseness in America runs everything. Its very scary time
you think that Europe can play a role in that situation ?
If the EU stands strong, you can push America back. And if China and
Russia hold tight, they can push back America. Because right now were
talking about dropping a nuclear bomb on Iran. A nuclear fuckin
bomb on a muslim country. Its suicide for America. We will create
a thousand of Ben Ladens if we do that. We have no long term plan. America
is becoming insaine. So hopefully if Russia, China, Europe, has to say
to America, you have to slow the fuck down. Your war machine is becoming
See in America the right wing is in power, in Israel the right wing
is in power, the centre is gone. So hopefully in Europe there will be
more of a central mentality more of a common sence. Because you guys
know what fuckin war means.
you think that the majority of American people are aware of that ?
No. We live on our island. And were rich. If Im 18 years
old, I live my arents house and go work as a waiter or a bartender in
Los Angeles, Ill make 200 or 300 dollars a night cash. Ill
fuck girls, drink, easy life. Its like were the Romans.
Were fat, lazy, we fuck everybody, have a stong military, but
we dont realize that we are spending something like 20 billion
dollars a month from our credit card for the Iraq. Were gonna
loose big time, and were gonna bankrupt our country.
The sad thing is that the right wing and the religious partys said that
if you dont vote for George Bush its a sin. And thats
what I fuckin scary. And on the news, on tv, everything is like
the terrorists are coming. Thats how they keep the
fear in everyone. I remember when I was a kid the pro communist tv shows
that we watched kept saying Americans are coming, capitalists
are coming they kept everyone afraid. Its weird because
Im living the same thing again. Before we go home to Hungary you
have to call the secret police and told them youre an american
in Hungary. And then when a phone call would come, you can hear them
on the line listening. And now in when youre on your cell phone
in America when you say Ben Laden, car bomb, anything
youre phone starts clicking because a fuckin computer is
listening. Its the same fuckin thing. Before in Hungary
they can knock on your door at night and take you way, nobody knows.
Now in America, they pass these fuckin laws, same thing! They
can take you and send you to fuckin Guantanamo Bay for ever. Thats
bullshit. Its fuckin Stalline thing, its crazy.
it difficult to talk about that in America ?
I do. I push it. Its easier in Europe to say Fuck Bush !.
In Texas, you go to Oklahoma, to Arkansas, you say that and you get
a fight. Because everyone are right next to him, they got guns, theyre
crazy. Thats why I look up to Green Day and Social Distortion,
they are on major labels, owned by big corporations and still do Rock
Against Bush cover, had a huge tour about that. Bruce Springsteen, the
Dixie Chicks same thing. They got their cd destroyed, got death threats.
See the whole concept of our album Our Darkest Days its
a very scary time. Fear Is Our Tradition the propaganda
is pushing. I wrote a song called Know Your History because
we dont fuckin know our fuckin history. We dont
have any foreign policy, we dont look pass a year from now. Its
all about quick fast money.
you see a little evolution in this situation ?
I love my country. Im very proud to be American. I will die for
my country. But Americans are really really uneducated. The American
system, school system is really easy. And the majoriy of Americans dont
even know where the 50 states are in the map. Pretty much the most educated
parts are the east coast and west coast. But in the middle of America,
its like going backwards in time.
americans didnt travel and get the chance to see other countries
See in France when you go to school, on holiday you might go to Gemany,
Sweden or Africa
But holiday for us, we go to Florida, or Hawai.
We never leave the country. And if you never leave the country you never
see other cultures. And you dont see how the capitalism, on its
evil form as it is now, oppresses the poor.
from Sick of it All said that when you speak against your government,
they say that you are not real americans. So it might be difficult to
have this speech there...
Im not american because I dont agree with my government,
that means Im not proud to be who I fuckin am ? Its
bullshit! Its insane!
Its intersting, lot of people in Germany are very much against
their government. But they get socialised medecine, socialised schooling.
For exmeple, I have to get surgery ok? Something is fucked up in my
stomac. Its gonna cost me 40 000 dollars. I have to sell my house.
People in Germany said Our government is fucked up, but
if they have to get surgery, the government pays for it. Fuck! Its
really weird. I dont get anything from my government. And Im
probably more patriotic than most of the people in Europe. Getting anything
from your own government and say fuck you to it, its weird.
Europe we associate the Government and the Country. In America its
really 2 different things I guess
Yeah. Because we were supposed to be separate. I dont like guns,
I will never shot an animal. But everybody in my family owns guns. Its
a right in America to have some. Because we are supposed to protect
ourself from our own government. Separation of church and State. But
now its all mixed up. Were not following the constitution
When you have this type of message over here,
people react to it, immediately.
In America do you think that the people understand this message, or
just react to your music ? In a way do you think this can change their
point of view ?
In hardcore, yes! In small community, 4 or 500 people everynight, yes!
In mainstream, fuck no! In country western, no fuckin way! Youll
this why you did this cover of Sunday Bloody Sunday ?
Im a big fan of Bono. He went to Africa, he went there with 3
peoples from the world bank and make it possible for some countries
there to be releaved from their debt. Who the fuck does that ? I really
respect him. And its a really good song to sing about whats
going on right now. For them it was about another stupid thing, protestants
and catholics, both christians killing each other for what ? Stupidity
you gonna play it tonight ?
Yes for sure. Especialy in festivals.
Let me say something else about the politics real quick. There is a
peace movement in America, huge. There is a peace movement in Israel,
huge. Also in Palestine and Iran and Irak. Its just that the crazys
are in power right now. And the normal thinking people are pushed up
to the side. Because the crazys are making a lot of money. War is good
for business. So the peace movement is pushed to the side.
America do you think that the situation will evolve, people are gonna
realize whats happening and do something about it ?
No. Its gonna be worse before it gets any better. Were gonna
go to war with Iran. Iran is very powerfull and very rich. Its
different when there was Al Qaida, a small group with people here and
there, here its a whole powerfull government were gonna
fight. Its gonna destroy our economy.
I dont believe Al Qaida really attaked. I think its Dick
Cheaney, Donald Rumsfeld etc, they needed a Pearl Harbor style of attak
to put our army in South Arabia. Come on, do the fuckin math its
simple. Why did they stop attaking. They would have put a bomb here
and there every week if they wanted to. Thank God it didnt happened.
But thats why I dont think it was Al Qaida. I really dont.
Im a pilot, when I was 19 I got my pilot licence. To flight a
347 at 350 miles per hour, to turn the wings at the last minutes when
you see the towers, you do not learn that in some fuckin flight
school in Florida. You learn that from being an airline pilot or a military
pilot flying jetfighter. Its all crap of shit. It was perfect
for us to put military into Iraq and Iran. Cheaney and Rumsfeld try
to do Bush senior to do that a long time ago. He said no. Because its
not George Bush who runs America, its those guys. George Bush
is too fuckin stupid men !
So you look at this going on, how much more important is that than hardcore
? A lot more important. Were talking about World War again. Thats
why Im focussing on this kind of stuff and not on whats
the difference between hardcore in Europe and in America, this kind
of shit, that doesnt matter. This is real time shit. And in 10
years we might not be fuckin sit here. We might be at fuckin
war somewhere. Im telling you men, if American economy crashes,
the world economy will crash too.
do you think american people need a war to start thinking about what
is going on in the world ?
Its sad to say that, but they need a fuckin wake up call.
They need a history lesson. After each guy goes out of school, they
need to fligh to a country especially third world country to see what
the fuck is up. Were really the Romans : fat, happy, lazy. So
what the fuck do they care about people living in Djakarta or elsewhere
? They say : Fuck them I dont care, drop bomb on them, for
me, my tv is good, dont care !
you see more and more poverty in America ?
Poverty comes from drugs its a different thing. You see a lot
drug addicts. Crack and cocaine keeps the poor down. Its like
in Russia, you wont have any food but you have vodka. Because
if youre an alcooholic youre not worrying about what your
government do, you only worry about your next drink. With drug, you
only worry about getting the next fuckin hit. Youre not
worrying about what George Bush is doing. Its a fuckin cancer.
It keeps people down.
compared Americans to Romans, Romans gave people bread and the games
to provide them from thinking too much. Now with drugs and television
its quite the same...
Yeah for sure. You know its easy to make a living there, you get
payed well, nobody bothers you. I was selling used cars, because I had
a problem with drinking, thats another reason why we stopped touring
for a while, so I needed to stay away from touring. Because I drank
too much and wanted to stop this life style. So I was selling used cars,
terrible job, I wanted to hang myself everyday, but I was making 7 OOO
dollars a month. Shitty job, Ill never do again, but if me, I
dont have any college education, but if I can make 7 thousand
dollars a month selling used cars, fuck, life is good. They keep the
job opportunities open because if you make money you wont worry
about whats going on outside your own life. When youre hungry
and educated, when you cant pay your bills, thats a dangerous
time for the country. Thats why China and especially India is
so dangerous to America. In India, they are educated, they are poor
and they fuckin want what we got. Were gonna get our asses
kicked by them for sure !
you think that the whole Rock Against Bush had an impact
in America ?
On the east coast and west coast yes. But in the midwest, its
all about country music. If the new metal bands : Hatebreed, Avenged
if they go to the middle of America and really get
in the politics, it will make a difference. Avenged Sevenfold in America
dragged 5 or 6 000 kids a night in Iowa, Kansas, Michigan etc.. if they
say listen, this is whats going on, that would make a difference.
Because hardcore is very small. Metal is huge.
Do you know what Im ashemed of? Its the whole hip hop generation.
They always sing about fuckin girls, making money, selling drugs,
guy like 50 Cent, selling crack cocaine, live the american dream and
they are the one kid look up to. Its sad, its disgusting
and Im ashamed of that. And I can say that because Im American,
I love my country, I pay my taxes, I really love this country, Im
proud of it, but lot of people are fuckin retards !!!!
an blindtest interview with Freddy (Madball) he said about Ignite
: They're unique, they've got their own way as well, they come
from California they have more melodic in the hardcore style and they're
probably one of the best bands at that style. They've really good catchy
songs, and a good live band. They're like family, I enjoyed watching
them every night that we play" what your feeling about?
what Freddy said about us ? Hes a nice guy, I gotta give him money
Have you something to say to Freddy, we ll
make an interview with him in 2 days (Sunday)
for me if you wanna watch a true hardcore band, I love Agnostic front,
but I think Madball took a one step further where they have the true
oldschool new york style, when you hear it, you just get that fuckin
cool feeling where you wanna work out or something. I think they have
the best energy. And Freddy, is a master at keeping the crowed completely
focussed on him and his band. They are one of my favorite bands of all
time. Everytime Im in a bad mood or down, I listen to Madball
and it gives that little extra push. When I have a very rough day and
I need some extra energy, I listen to Madball. First of all, I really
care about those guys. They are really great people. Freddy is a very
dangerous man. Seriously dangerous guy but hes really nice guy
on the inside. He doesnt hurt people for no reason, hes
just a good guy, obviously I dont want to be the one to make him
mad ! (Big Laugh) Seriously I care about those guys and they
are very talented at what they do.
you listen to their last album "Legacy" ? Did you like it
Ive always been a great fan of Madball, so everything they will
do Im gonna love it ! The only problem with this album is that
there isnt Zoly from Ignite singing on it ! (Laugh) Tell
him that !
of Pivot With Zoli Teglas :
is your favourite word?
What is your least favourite word? Communist
What turns you on creatively, spiritually and
What turns you off? Hatred
What is your favourite curse word? You
fuckin cock sucker
What sound or noise do you love? In french
Je taime mon petit choux, mes belles fleurs that has
to do with some pretty french girl
What sound or noise do you hate? The fuckin
wake up buzzer which is next to your bed and buz at 6 in the morning
when you got to go and sell used fuckin cars ! It sucks.
What is your favorite place on earth? Budapest, Sweden, South of Mexica,
South of France Toulouse
And the one you hate? Tulsa, Oklahoma
Which persons influenced you the most during your
My Grandmother, she fuckin believed in what she did, and did it
were your heroes when you were a kid?
My grandmother has always been my hero because she was a strong women.
What profession other than your own would you
like to attempt?
Working in energy wise companies thats gonna be the next of the
future because were running out of oil and we style need electricity
without nuclear this and that. Im really interested in that.
Another is doctors without boarders Médecins sans frontières.
I dont have the qualifications to work for them, but I wanna start
learning them. If you have any kind of doctor skill, you can go anywhere
in the world and have a job and help people. If you have mecanik skills,
working on cars, you can go anywhere in the world making good money.
What profession would you not like to do?
Selling used cars, of course !!!
If Heaven exists, what would you like to hear
God say when you arrive at the Pearly Gates?
Welcome. Not go fuck yourself go to hell !
Interview Pierre & O.S.