we wanted to talk about your new released, Code Blue Coma, can you explain
the symbolic of the cover ?
decided to leave the major label and work with Brett Gurewitz from Bad
Religion. He's somebody that I've known for like 15 years. And we decided
to give it and go. We did all right. When you look at the cover of the
record, you know, it's pretty brutal. And that's the way I felt at that
period of time when we were doin' the fuckin' record. Because once you
start to get it to a major point in production. Weather it's organising
a business, going to school, we all deal with different pressures in
life. We all deal with different pressures. Part of that pressure, people
demanding shit from me. I'm an artist and some people, sometimes it
hurts to have people demand that fuckin' perform as an artist. So the
reason I like the cover, because that's the way I felt like I was being
followed by a fuckin' mob that'll fuckin' beat me to death. In the cover,
the art that's inside, i have a friend of mine who's a really renound
world wild known artist, his name is Mirawana from CBS and he's one
of the best graphity artist in the world. Just in my opinion of course.
And I'm not saying that because he's my friend. He said, "look
Ray, we have a budget about 10 000$, give me 2000$, go to my web site,
pick anything you want", because I've known that nigger for a long
time. And I picked that particular piece because I think that it speaks
for itself. I can sit here and talk to you guys what I fell about the
piece. That piece is fuckin' amazing man. So I picked that piece, because
that particular Downset record on Epitaph says a lot of things. And
that particular piece that we picked to be in the record, says a lot
things as well. And that's the reason I picked the piece.
have a new guitar player. You were four on the other records, now you
have two guitars players, what contribution does he brings on your sound
Actually we are all together now. All the original members went through
a bunch of shitand we got back together except on this tour. Brian Sweggar,
our guitar player, his mother is dying right now so we couldn't ask
him to fuckin' leave. That's pretty selfish. Jamesis making more money
doing what he's doing right now so he couldn't leave. He has to pay
the fuckin' bills. I understand totally. The members on the last record
were all original members except for the drummer. Now the sound that
we have on that particular record, I think if you're into rap metal,
or into Downset, if you don't fuckin' buy that record, you're fuckin'
missing it. I swear I've
heard Limp Bizkit shit, Rage Against The Machine shit, all these niggers,
they can even fuck with that record. None of'em. I'm talking about like
strictly MC style. Like niggers battling on the mic, none of these niggers
can step to that record. And that's just my opinion I'm not saying that
because it's my shit, I'm saying that because I have a very strong and
true opinion on art. I'm an artist, I've been a graphity artist since
I was 12, I've always loved music and it's a fuckin' master piece of
rap metal. And if you don't see it, you're missin' it.
you explain the musical changes and evolution between "Code Blue
Coma " and "Check Your People" ?
I think that we tried to stick to the traditional
sound which is the metal and the rap. I was a big Suicidal Tendencies
fan, and they started getting' a little too metal for me bro. You know,
I was like "Fuck", I'm not trying to dog Mike Muir shit, he's
one of my biggest fuckin' hero, but I think the band just left it sounds
too much, you know, that's a lesson to me. So the rap and the metal,
we always gotta keep it. You know, but as a vocalist, i've been brockin
rimes and swearing my fuckin' tongs out ever since I was 13 years old
man, it's fuckin' old to me.
I've been doing rap metal since 1986. It's like I've been doin' this
shit forever, so I wanna sing.
I was thinking about starting other shit.
You have a strong message in your lyrics, what is now your message in
Fuck ! You know, I've tyed to do my best. You know what I mean. I pretty
much think that people don't get it. Cause I'll be in France and I'll
hear someone talking shit about somebody from England, I'll be in england
listening to some kid talking shit about people from france, I'll be
in Germany listening to some kid talking about polish people, you know
what I'm saying, I'll be in fucking Los Angeles and it's the same shit
but worst. It's fucking worst men, you know. What do I have to say these
days ? Fuck, you know the most important thing for me right now are
family, communauty and education. I've been studying law, religious
law which is juich law, I've been studying the bible, I've been studying
every form of american law as I possibly could the orignis of law because
law create some of an order and we need to make order out of chaos.
Hatred is chaos and has nothing to do with fuckin' order. So I think
that these days, you know, love your family, keep education progressive.
Simple shit you know, if your friend is hungry
give him some food, if he need somewhere to stay, fuckin' give him somewhere
to stay. You know if you step of the net of hardcore, rapcore or fuckin'
reaggae or whatever music, you step out of the fuckin' real world. you
have to get people housing, fuckin' jobs. You know food and education
are those things that fuckin' count. I don't really live in Los Angeles
right now, I
live in Mexico, fuckin' poor third world country. And I see the things
that really count, family, jobs and education. And I think that if I
had to say anything right now that's what I'll have to say. Improve
the quality of life threw education, family and jobs cause that's what
really count. how did you buy that jacket ? How did I buy these shooes
? Cause I went to work, and I
got this work cause of a friend of mine that helped me out, and that's
the sheet that really counts
What do you think of the emergence of Hardcore in metal music ?
fuckin amazing bro ! I just can't believe it. It's fuckin too much.
But what it says to myself personnely, is that fuck radio you're a way
out of your time. I'm ahead of my time for like fifteen years as an
artist. You know I wasn't listening to Public Enemy or Sick Of It All
because I thought that was cool, I listened to it because I saw the
emergence of it. I was keepin' in touch with kids like this is niggers
from new york, check'em out, buy their shit. I started out as I was
12 years old as a DJ, I spin like disco, and then funk, and then disco
and funk started turning into rap and that's how I got to the hip hop
scene, and then I got to the graphity art, cause threw art you can change
the world. When I see 12 or 13 years old kids wearing Limp Bizkit shirts,
it's amazing to me to see like how much bands like Downset, Rage Against
The Machine, Run DMC started to influence the sound of music. It's incredible,
I don't even know what the fuck to say about it bro, and to see where
it's gone it's like "Whouah" I didn't thought it would get
this big. We have millions of people who are listening to this shit,
it's fuckin' too much. Downset can go anywhere and get like 500 kids
a night. We are very lucky.
What about fusion bands like Hed(Pe)?
I got love for those kids. We were on tour with them. There is a lot
of bands that we got love for. I think it works. I'm cool with it. I'm
glad that people are wheeling to mix all types of music. Because that's
what it's about. Music is not gonna evolve, sound is not gonna evolve
unless people experiment, and right now we really try to experiment.
Does the line up changes affected your way to compose ?
no. I don't really listen to other music, if you ask me how sound the
new Papa Roach or Limp Bizkit or System of a Down I don't fuckin' now.
I don't really listen to that shit. Right now I'm on to jungle, break
beat, 70s. I picked the Chaos AD record and started listen to it. I
don't listen to too much stuff anymore. I try not to be influenced by
Do you consider graphics art as a part of hardcore street and community
Absolutely. I've traveled worldwilde doing music, but when you drive
down the streets on a freeway or on a highway, graphity art is so fuckin'
public. I take pictures and I document it worldwide. There is nothing
like it, it's fuckin' everywhere. And it has more influence on the public
I think, you know you can drive on the freeway and there it is, it's
not like somebody is
pumping a fuckin' Chaos AD record on the freeway. Graphity art is visual,
it's out there. Graphity art has been very important to me because it's
a strong and positive thing in my life. It's almost more important to
me than music. Because you can get a someone how is into reaggae, classical,
or basque and folk and play each one of 'em on a fuckin' black flag
record and every one of em will be like no I don't listen to that shit,
but if you show them a piece of art they're gonna be more open to it.
Cause it's more universal.
about the featuring on Cypress Hill album ?
We know those Cypress Hill niggers for years.
We're all from the same place. You know, Cypress Hill, Wu Tang, we have
connections. Downset is a fuckin' band that you know, we know a lot
of people. I'm not gonna start dropping names. A lot of people who are
in the rap world, really wanna know about Downset. You know, there has
been interviews where they've asked Zack de la Rocha from RATM who was
doing the sound when they first started and they said "Downset
was". RATM is very influencal, Downset is very influencal but we
are more of a un underground level. RATM is fuckin huge, but because
of the fact that we've been such an underground level, I think that
there is a mystic about it. We attract all of a different personnality.
For the Cypress Hill featuring, it's like what music is all about, meeting
with people, getting together and fuckin' make it work.
would you like to say to the young generation now ?
I'm 32 years old now, I've been in this music since I was fuckin' 12,
and I really think that supporting the local scene is very important
you know. Start a band, do whatever you wanna do, but I just believe
that people should start supporting the local scene, takin' care of
their families, take education a lot more serious. You know, make yourself
happy. That's it bro, you know what I'm saying. I could sit here and
talk for hours, but I think that making yourselves happy without hurting
other people is fuckin' what life is all about.
Do you know French bands ?
Absoloutly not. Yeah we've toured with shit lots of bands. "Boost"
We just played with them. Like 2 or 3 shows, their shows were fuckin'
heavy men. Guys were also very cool. What else do I know from france
? Fuck I can't remember anybody dude. But I tell you this : In general,
not just music, all of arts (cause I consider music to be art), the
french, there nothing like playing in france. France is strong. Because
I believe that the french are very passionate at what they do, they
take it serious. Not that Germany doesn't or that England doesn't, everybody
has a passion, but caracteristicly speaking, you guys are very unique
people bro. "Vive la France !"
Is there any questions you would have liked we
asked you ?
Hugh, let me see. Yeah I would have liked them to ask me what I think
about the E.C. The European Communauty. This is what I predict : The
Queen of England would never become a part of the EC. They will not
do it, that's what I really believe. And as United States comes from
England, it's not a part of the British Commonwealth but american roots
are from England. So I believe that the european continent will start
pressure on England to join but they will not want to be a part of it,
so they are gonna fight after a while. That's what I believe, but they're
not gonna fight the whole continent on their own, otherwise they will
fuckin' loose. So they will get together with the US and there will
be a war. Yes, a fuckin' big war buddy ! And as soon as I heard that
the fuckin' EC was a reality, I as like, fuck dude !
Now what is your last word ?
I'm about to go to sleep nigger !
O.S. & Ben