This interview was made in Clisson (France) the 23rd of june 2007.
Manu and O.S. have met Juan Brujo, one of the singers.
How is this new tour going ?
Tour is good, we play like 4 festivals, you know lets say on the weekends,
its fun you know coming out here doing big festivals. Thats something
new for us, we dont tour that much, never have, so its good
to come to these shows. You know, on the main stage its kind of
surprising for us. Its a good thing!
We did a couple, like 4 shows in february. In London and a couple in Italy, just to see what happens, and it was really good shows. Really surprising that people like, turned out and stuff. Then these festivals came you know. We dont have a manager, we dont have a booking agency but soon, as we get these shows. I do all the booking, they call somebody, get my email "Hey you wanna do a show?" Ya! lets go alright, lets go!. Its fun though, we like to play for people who never seen us.
It seems that the reaction of the fans is incredible, Youve sold a huge amount of merch...
(Laughing) We sell our own we go we like to sell our merch to
the people, like meet us and stuff and with the mask on (Laugh).
It seems that the line-up since the "Brujerizmo" record changed a bit...
left, Güero Sin Fe (Billy Gould), Asesino (Dino Cazares),
Greñudo (Raymond Herrera)... they left the gang, theyre
scared of me or something, they just leave, they hate me. I dont know
Well whos in the band actually?
Hongo (Shane Embury)'s been in for a long time, And then El Cynico (Jeff Walker), Ive known him since 1999 or something. The only one thats new is El Podrido (Adrian Erlandsson), the drummer. He's a friend of a El Cynico so he came on you know. But all the other guys, I known them forever a long long time.
We know that there was some problem between Raymond and Dino, but they both left the band. You dont know why?
said "If Dinos in the band, Im out! ", and the
other said "If Raymonds in the band, Im out! "...
So they both left (Laughs).
And what about Billy Gould?
Ya! Billy said "If Dinos in the band, I leave!", and he left. And all these guys said if Dinos in the band they leave, so they left, and then Dino quits, right when it starts getting.
But you seem to have some great new band members right now...
Ya they've always been there, these guys we were touring with were always in the studio. Since the first records so theyve been around for awhile, so its good to have these guys here and having fun now. Jeff he hasnt done metal for like 10-12 years. And when we said "Lets go on tour!", he said "Oh ya lets go! Ya lets go!". (Laughs) So its good to see him back doing the bass thing. And he likes it, you see him out there with the cowboy hat and its a good thing for him, and it works. Ya Im glad everyone has fun.
Well can you tell us more about the original concept of the band because we heard a lot of stories...
At the beginning, all our friends wanted to make a hardcore band but different, in spanish but do it right. Back then there was nothing like us in spanish, not even hard rock, not even metal. So we came out with hard metal and real brutal lyrics that never been heard of over there and just killed. Like people either heard it and they hated it or loved it right away but it didnt matter if your a metal fan if youre spanish or mexican. Youll get reaction no matter what, so everybody in Mexico knows our show. Cops you know, the president "Oh Brujeria!". Its like everybody know us. (Laughs)
Is that one more reason you dont come in Europe very often?
No we just started touring like 3 years ago, we never toured before cuz of everybody. We do the records and then they go on tour with their other band. Their bands at the ring gets big and famous you know with MTV, and I dont seem em again. So they join Brujeria, they get big and famous and then they go away. And Im like this "What happen?". But now I got the guys who wanna tour and stuff so were doing that first. Looks like were gonna make another record cuz people want it so well do it. Let see what happens...
Did you create that band to shock people in a way?
Ah ya! People are scared of all these things like "Oh you cant sing about el'diablo and things like that". "Oh ya you can!" (Laugh) So after us ton of bands came trying to copy us and it started a whole movement like all mexico is all ruined now with all metal dark metal and all this stuff that comes out now. Its like it opened a big door like, knocked it down, so its good, good for that.
Whats your opinion about the Governments in South America in general like in Brazil, Columbia...
Well I concentrate on Mexico you know, thats my thing. We dont sing about south america, only about the drug dealings that we deal with you know but other then that I dont get involved with whats not mine. So its mainly Mexico and stuff. United States boarder Mexico thats hot area thats good one. South america countries are on their own you know, let Sepultura sing about Brazil. If they havent or of they dont, somebody will, sooner or later.
As you said, Mexico is very close to the US...
... Its right on the United states boarder, lot of mexicans come cross the United States illegally to get a better job you know, they got poor in Mexico. So thats a million people crossing over all the time. Now the US is like half mexican. Its like the half of the United States army is mexican. They say lets go to war with Mexico, the army wont fight. Its like Mexico's a free country now and they got United states to protect them... cuz all the armys mexican...
... And the US government built a wall...
racist white people wanted to make a wall but all the mexicans do is
go there and do jobs like cutting the grass, you know simple jobs that
they'd like to do.
doesnt matter to me but if they start talking about the boarder
and fucking mexicans then we get involved. And um like our Pito Wilson
song is about the governer of california. I was at a grammy party because
one of our members got nominated for grammy with another band so we
went and they had the governer and he was speaking at the grammys "Aaah
calafornia hollywood industry" whatever... then later on, I was
walking in the crowd and I come the other way and all of a sudden look
up the crowd and the governer was right in front of me and he looks
at me like this, turns around and covers his wife. I was the only mexican
at the whole party, I was the only brown skin mexican guy at the whole
party so when he sees me, he turns around covers his wife to protect
About your discography, "Brujerizmo was a lot different than your other records?
Yeah, for that record we let Dino and Raymond do what they want. Fear Factory was big at that time so we let them do what they want and see where it goes, and we did it their way. It was ok, it was a good record but it changed a little bit but to me, it was too much work. For our first records we just went to the studio to record, we had nothing, we never practiced, we just showup in the studio record and write the songs the same day. So our first record was done in one day, and the second record went really fast. Matando Gueros cost us about $800, it took 3 to 4 days to do it and that includes writing them and recording them mixing and everything... And the next one was like $2000 about a week, week and half and then it looks like a real record.
we can really feel the influence Dino & Raymond had the record,
It sounds very Factory on the guitars and the drumes...
We're gonna try, we're gonna see what happens, you know it's hard for these records to get out now beacause we have all these guys leaving and fighting, it's not me! They get in, they get famous and they leave...
you going to work with Roadrunner do you think for the next one?
you see hardcore bands in south america rising?
But you didnt have any contact with any record company?
one guy (Gustavo Santaolalla) on our spanish record company,
hes a big producer in latin america but he never had a band hit
in the United States that sold a lot. This guy won a grammys, he won
an oscars for the Brokeback Mountain soundtrack, hes
big guy, he's done all the big records, and if he wants to do it with
us, we'll do it with him, beacuse that might be the one that sells a
lot in the United States that he's never done. All his records are platinum
in latin america countries, but in the US its 100,000, 200,000,
and millions everywhere else. So we might be the band who could do that
in the United States, it might work together. If it's not, thats
going to be ourselves you kow with ebay highest bidder...
do you have any funny story...?
Any strange thing with any government or something?
yeah! We get on tv, some songs are made like if we ever get on TV. These
guys stop making music, we write songs so when they want to do that
they play that song like they want to go after and say These guys
are horrible and the song they'll play come out on TV and there
comes the song with the lyrics, they're putting up the lyircs, like
molesting dead children... That's a song we did. They use it all the
time on Tv to talk bad about us but it works for us, like these guys
kill people whatever... (Laughs) We do have a bunch of things happen
a lot back when the early days when it was still unknown, no internet,
it was really hard, but you'll see some videos that come out. On the
spanish TV they got some guy that looks like the Matando Gueros
cd, the head. They killed a guy, took his head off, and it looked like
that guy and they were Oh we're gonna arrest these guys for killing
this guy, and that cd came out like five years ago (Laughs)
So your plans for the next month?
Next week well start writing new stuff, we have a festival next week, With Full Force, so we got a week of writing and see what happens and it's either going to be oursleves independent or with a big Universal Records deal i think, who knows? But you know it's going to be a big deal but we're not going to change but you'll see, you guys will tell me if I change and you see me it goes like that alright? You guys will tell me.
You have any special message to tell for our readers?
Just rock it, Be fuckin metal, fucking have fun doing what you're doing, if it's not fun, don't do it, if not worth it, don't do it, get out of it! That's it!
Manu & O.S