first, how is this new tour ? You were in Nancy yesterday...
It's cool! It's not really a tour... It's basically just weekend shows,
with long weekends from Thursday 'til Sunday or Monday, because we need
to write the new record, and we need time to do that. It's not going
on very quickly but it's been going very well. I mean we're playing
shows in Germany, in France, in Holland, in Belgium, it looks like a
small European tour. And then in a couple of weeks, we're going to eastern
Europe and to Italy so that's a lot of stuff happening right now, that's
cool! I like it!
From Pain always been a metal/hardcore or a new school hardcore band...
... yeah we're not really a metal band ! (Laugh)
how would you define " In Love With The End " compare to the
other records ?
If you compare " In Love With The End " to the previous one,
"Sands Of Time" it's really different, because "Sands
Of Time" was way more spot on and a faster record and more hardcore
base record. This record, " In Love With The End " is more
of a grooving sort of metal influence records which you can compare
to the first full length we put out called "Reclaiming The Crown".
So basically it's like an evolution again like back and forth, but it's
pretty much groovy, hard as fuck, hardcore with a big metal influence
to it. If you compare it to the other one that's the basic differences
between the records.
From Pain was a lot compared to Hatebreed. It seems that with "
In Love With The End " you really wanted to mark your difference,
with stuff like the guitar solo at the begining of "Judgement"...
Well, are you fed up to be always compared with Hatebreed ?
Humm yeah maybe a bit 'cause what sounds like Hatebreed is of course
the heavy breakdowns within the songs, and my vocals sounds is also
like Jamey's as well but that's the mainly the only things we have in
common with Hatebreed. It's not like when we wrote " In Love With
The End " we were like "We don't wanna be compared anymore
with this or that band !". We just wrote the stuff we like and
I mean it doesn't sound like Hatebreed at all. It's not like we did
it on purpose. We always write what we wanna write and how we feel,
so now it's more like a groovy kind of record and it sounds like we
wanted to go that direction. There wasn't really a direction to somewhere.
guitar player Stefan was supposed to quit the band...
Yes he's quitting the band. He's only doing this weekend I think and
the last week in February and then he's out of the band basically.
will be replaced by Dominik from Zero Mentality...
he going to play in both bands or does he leave definatly Zero mentality
for Born From Pain?
Yes he's living Zero Mentality for Born From Pain. He's been filling
in for Stefan because Stefan has a different life than we all have,
he's got a wife, he's got a kid and for Dominik we needed someone that
feet the band and we knew that he could play the songs and solos as
well. So we asked Dominik. He did the Madball tour in 2002 I think,
the year we played the Fury Fest, it was 2003. He's been helping us
out for a long time now on a regular basis as well. So we knew that
he would feet the band really well. So that's why we asked him to join
Born From Pain. And he did, he's quitting Zero Mentality for that.
are you still friend with Zero Mentality? (Laugh)
Yeah yeah! They already saw that comin'. It's obvious I mean. Well not
obvious, but when you get chance to play in a band that has a basis
already, in certain areas, in certain countries where Zero Mentality
still has to go somewhere and to build up the bases and we already have
the bases so... But they knew it was comin', they had the feeling, but
we're still good friends!
Yeah that's cool! I love Dominik, he's a good guy and a good guitarist
as well ! He looks hard on stage while he plays guitar... I love it!
" In Love With The End " you've changed your label, GSR to
Metalblade which is a bigger label. What were the reasons of this change?
Basically we wanted to reach more people and Metalblade is a label that
has been going for... I don't know how many years but I think 20 years
or something, and I mean 10 years in Europe alone. We knew that their
way working was wilder and bigger than GSR and Gangstyle, especially
with the distribution of the CD which is a lot better than that was
GSR so... A few other labels were interested in us like Nuclear Blast
for instance, they wanted to sign us as well. We always want to make
sure that we make the best decisions as possible. And that combines
the head together with the heart. Its not like we solely trusted what
we thought but also what we felt so when we talked to the dudes with
Metalblade it was just cool because they end to have the same visions
we had, that's basically why went for Metalblade, try to reach a bigger
audience, going to a different level...
you think you have sold more records of "In Love With The End"
than "Sands Of Time"?
I don't know! No clue, no clue! But I don't want to know! (Laugh)
I don't want to be disappointed and I don't want to be arrogant
about it, so that's why it's better for me not to know! For my own safety!
this new record you worked again with Tue Madsen, how was it compared
to the recording of " Sands Of time " ?
Well obviously he knew how we sounded like, because he did a live sound
a couple of time, and he did the "Sands Of Time" record. So
he knew what our sound was, and how we work as a band. That made it
a lot easier for us cause he knows what we could do and what our barriers
were, so what we couldn't do. So all that help the process of recording,
plus he has a couple of really good ideas that made some of the songs
a lot better than how they were before. So he's an amazing dude to work
with. For the next CD we're going to Tue Madsen's Antfarm Studio again
because why change a winning team? Why to try something else, and not
be sure that gonna work out ?!
would you be interesting in working with Zeuss or an American producer?
Humm, I don't know! No! I think the best producers, the best mixers
and the best masters are come from Denmark and Sweden... like the In
Flames or the last Caliban album, the sound is great!
" Sands Of time " you toured the US with Terror, how was it?
It was cool of course! Scott Vogel, the singer for Terror knows Rob
for 12 years now and I've known Scott since the first time he came over
from Despair so we knew the dudes already! Terror came on tour the first
time just when "Sands Of Time" came out, we played a release
party and a couple of shows in Germany together, so we knew the band
already. Back then a little people thought Terror was much bigger than
they actually were, of course they're pretty big in California, the
shows in L.A was really good, San Diego, San Francisco... But as soon
as we go outside California, they weren't that well known and they weren't
so many kids at those shows but I mean it's just great for us as a European
band going to the states in a market that's already full with American
bands and those kids still liked us. That tour was different from Europe.
European kids don't dance or don't move to the first bands on the bill
and in the Sates they all move, have fun and start to dance, it's weird
but it was a really good experience to go there and to do something
with friends like Terror and Shattered Love.
you going to go there again?
I don't know if that's gonna be still for "In Love With The End"
or for the new record. We're still working out on some stuff but I think
the main priority right now is writing the new record and then maybe
going to the US for the next CD.
do you want to release this new record?
We're looking for November this year if that works out still on Metlbalde
as we sign for 3 CDs. I wouldn't want to be on any other label right
now, for me, Metalblade is the best option for us. Like I said, Nuclear
Blast wanted to sign us as well and other bigger labels as well but
we just didn't have the right feeling. And I'm still happy with Metalblade,
plus they pay good money! (Laugh)
get recognition by the whole hardcore scene, we can consider the band
as the leader of the European scene
what do you think about that
I would say "thank you!", and I'm asking myself if it's true
or not! I'd like to believe that we're like the leading hardcore band
in Europe but I think there's bands that do better that we do. I think
I'm gonna go with third place right now if you consider Caliban or Heaven
Shall Burn as hardcore. If not I think we're on top of hardcore, yeah.
I would say that we're probably one of the leading bands here in Europe
a DVD with " In Love With The End " with some footage from
the With Full Force festival. Do you plan to release a bigger DVD?
No plans yet! Not really. I think we didn't brings any cameras with
us on tour. I think we're just the most boring band in the world (Laugh).
I never bought it, I don't even bring a photo camera, that I don't what
footage is gonna be on the DVD cause there's no footage of us, nothing
at all! (Laugh) Only what's on the DVD which come with the CD,
that's the only thing! So, no, we're not working on something yet! Like
I said we're not a funny band, there's no entertainment for people to
see us sitting on the van, reading a book, listening to bad music, we
don't make jokes...
would be a great DVD, different from the other bands'... (Laugh)
Yeah, it's gonna be original as well! I don't think it's gonna sell
that much, people would say "They're really boring!" It's
like the film that a dude made called "Sleep" or something
where this dude falls asleep like for 4 hours, that's how our DVD is
gonna be... yeah that's gonna be us on tour, not funny! (Laugh)
mix metal & hardcore for a long time now, what's your feeling about
this new metalcore scene or NWOAHM? Which is obviously different than
It's a good thing you say that! I don't consider those bands as hardcore
bands, they're like a new wave of metal that mix hardcore within metal
and not like we do metal within hardcore. When I first get into hardcore
and those bands are still the main influences to Born from Pain, bands
like Merauder, All Out War, Stigmata, Earth Crisis, that kind of bands
metal within hardcore and not hardcore within metal. I don't think that
those bands, music wise, have a lot influence on me as far as the writing
process goes, even if I love Killswitch Engage or Chimaira. Like I said,
Merauder, All Out War and Hatebreed are way more important to me, because
those bands were there when I started listening to hardcore, all those
American like New York kind of hardcore bands with a metal edge, even
the Cro-Mags and Killing Time stuff really amazed me. Those bands like
Killswitch and Chimaira sounds more clinical and that just not our sound
with Born From Pain. I think we sound a bit dirtier, still more hardcore
than all those bands. And that's why I love l'Esprit Du Clan as well,
we played with them yesterday and they still have like the Merauder
feel to it which I adore, I love it! But I love that new wave of metal
and metalcore people call, but it just have no influence on me, and
on Born From Pain. We just keep on do what we're doin' now, make it
perfect and just write another hard as fuck record which we like and
not because the public likes. There's not gonna be any songs with pretty
singing, it's gonna be me barking into the fucking microphone, and hard
riffs and good breakdowns. That's it!
personal questions now. What are you listening to actually ?
I listen to Black Label Society, a lot of Brand New Sin stuffs, they
just put out an album out on Century Media, I listen to a lot of Crowbar,
Corrosion Of Conformity, Black Sabbath, well that kind of stuff right
now, there's always changing. Danzig is one of my favourite bands if
you can talk of a band (Laugh) It's basically not much hard stuff
right now, more like rockier kind of stuff.
from rock do you listen to other styles?
I like some hip hop stuff, I like The Game for instance, it's produced
by Dr Dre, I like those stuff that's pretty easy to listen to, that's
basically kind of stuff I listen to. I listen to pop stuff as well,
Madonna is really good, the last record is amazing, Tori Amos is one
of my favourite acts ever cause of her all of her emotions and her pretty
vocal lines, Sabia, Muse...
what are your all time fave bands?
It's a hard question: Black Sabbath, Faith No More, Merauder, Metallica,
Slayer, Anthrax, Cro-Mags, Danzig, Crowbar, Corrosion Of Conformity...
you have some bands to advice us from the Netherlands ?
Yeah! You know Gangstyle Records right? They gonna put out 2 CDs of
some amazing bands, pretty much a Machine Head influence like 37 Stabwounds,
really grooving metal with kind of hardcore stuff, and Blind Sight which
is really awesome as well. Please check it out, you won't be disappointed,
it's awesome stuff, with really good singers, really good musicians,
really good songs. And then of course The Set Up from Antwerp I think,
they're awesome check that stuff out, they got a CD on GSR as well!
heard that you all work besides BFP. What are you doing exactly?
Yeah we all work except for the English dude (Karl).
Karl : I'm Lazy! (Laugh)
(Ché continues) Our drummer works for DHL, Dominik builds
stages, Rob our bassist is a teacher, he gives Microsoft course to people
and organisations, Karl is unemployed at the moment, and I'm working
in a call centre with people call other people, as a supervisor so I'm
basically the boss when I'm there, 60 people are working there. And
our merch guy is a call centre agent so I'm twice his boss (Laugh).
I'm his boss here, and I'm his boss there, and I think I fired him twice
a week and he still coming back like a girl (Laugh).
That's what we do, we all work part time cause it's impossible to be
in this band and work full time.
(The guy who organize the show is coming and ask us in French, if
everything's all right)
(Ché answered in French) Yeah, that's cool ! That's ok !
you want next time we'll do an interview in French...
(Still in French) Yeah whenever you want! (Laugh)
I've learnt French when I was 18, I'm 28 now, and I don't speak French
on regular bases. French is not really a hard language, it just that
we don't speak French that very often, that's why it's hard you know.
And there' not so many shows here... I don't know why.
music is not very popular here in France. It's difficult to make people
go to hardcore shows...
That's weird because when we played Fury Fest in 2004, we started playing
and the all place blow up. There were like 3500 kids in a place where
only 2500 could feet in. So that's weird! On festivals it's good and
on solo shows it's "bad", I don't know...
are your plans for the next month? Writing the new record...
Yeah, writing the new record, record it in august... and try to release
it in november.
a short time between the 2 records!
I think that's better than waiting 3 or 4 years between 2 records.
Yeah, there's was 3 years between "Reclaiming The Crown" and
"Sands of Time". It's rather short this time! (Laugh)
big thanks to Che for his time, and all the organization team !
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